Comments on: We Are All In This Together; Let’s Start Acting Like It. http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/09/17/we-are-all-in-this-together-lets-start-acting-like-it/ Sustainability, Environment, Progressive Politics, Peak Oil, Being Green. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:52:10 -0500 hourly 1 By: Noah L. http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/09/17/we-are-all-in-this-together-lets-start-acting-like-it/comment-page-1/#comment-17109 Noah L. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:45:05 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2026#comment-17109 Cheers, Sabine - I gotcha. Cheers, Sabine – I gotcha.

]]> By: Sabina http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/09/17/we-are-all-in-this-together-lets-start-acting-like-it/comment-page-1/#comment-17106 Sabina Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:18:09 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2026#comment-17106 Noah, I agree with you. It is a generalization. And not a good one. Yes, there is a huge difference between people living in a society where everything is available and the only problem is to make a choice what to buy. On the other hand there are millions of people thinking only about surviving. I've never be in a position to take care only for surviving and I can't imagine how it is like. I'm not trying to idealize other cultures/nations (I've been traveling quite a lot too) but I'm open to learn from different cultures, religions... Speaking of the responsibility - I know I'm co-responsible for what's going on in the world. But till I'm living a comfortable life, it's up to my consciouses what will I change to contribute to a better world. And that goes for all of us who are born in the "society of plenty". Noah, I agree with you. It is a generalization. And not a good one.
Yes, there is a huge difference between people living in a society where everything is available and the only problem is to make a choice what to buy. On the other hand there are millions of people thinking only about surviving. I’ve never be in a position to take care only for surviving and I can’t imagine how it is like.
I’m not trying to idealize other cultures/nations (I’ve been traveling quite a lot too) but I’m open to learn from different cultures, religions…
Speaking of the responsibility – I know I’m co-responsible for what’s going on in the world. But till I’m living a comfortable life, it’s up to my consciouses what will I change to contribute to a better world. And that goes for all of us who are born in the “society of plenty”.

]]> By: Noah L. http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/09/17/we-are-all-in-this-together-lets-start-acting-like-it/comment-page-1/#comment-17105 Noah L. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:23:52 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2026#comment-17105 Sabina - that's a bit of a generalization. I recently was in China and saw some of the same behaviors there that we see here in people. And in Japan and some places I've been in India, it's just as bad, if not worse, than it is here, due to the mass poverty. While I agree with this post, it's very easy to look at the "other side" and fantasize about how other people live. Really, the majority of humans on this earth are the same: they want to survive in the environment that they live in and are accustomed to. We here are people who (if we actually walk how we talk) care about the world and others because we CAN and are in positions in life to be able to do so. Millions and millions in this world are people that are not in such a lucky position, and to survive they do not even have a second to think about these things. In an ideal world, all governments would be instituting green ways of life, but the real world is not so simple, unfortunately. So, we all need to do what we can and contribute as best as we are able to, individually - but I feel that it's dangerous to idealize other cultures and ways of life which we are really not intimately familiar with. I've done a lot of traveling so far in my life, to places such as India and China where the poverty makes our ghettos look like lavish kingdoms; the last thing on anyone's mind in such places are ideals like we're talking about here: it's about basic survival. The world is so densely populated that, in my opinion, starting to cut down on that population is one of the only ways we will be able to really change things, along with pushing for greener ways of living and greener governments. You really see how overly populated it is when you visit countries like India or China. To me, one of biggest ways we can think about others and have respect for the world is to limit the amount of children, and consider adoption if we NEED to have more than one or two of our own, for whatever reason. How's THAT for a few different tangents! Sabina – that’s a bit of a generalization. I recently was in China and saw some of the same behaviors there that we see here in people. And in Japan and some places I’ve been in India, it’s just as bad, if not worse, than it is here, due to the mass poverty.

While I agree with this post, it’s very easy to look at the “other side” and fantasize about how other people live. Really, the majority of humans on this earth are the same: they want to survive in the environment that they live in and are accustomed to. We here are people who (if we actually walk how we talk) care about the world and others because we CAN and are in positions in life to be able to do so. Millions and millions in this world are people that are not in such a lucky position, and to survive they do not even have a second to think about these things.

In an ideal world, all governments would be instituting green ways of life, but the real world is not so simple, unfortunately. So, we all need to do what we can and contribute as best as we are able to, individually – but I feel that it’s dangerous to idealize other cultures and ways of life which we are really not intimately familiar with.

I’ve done a lot of traveling so far in my life, to places such as India and China where the poverty makes our ghettos look like lavish kingdoms; the last thing on anyone’s mind in such places are ideals like we’re talking about here: it’s about basic survival.

The world is so densely populated that, in my opinion, starting to cut down on that population is one of the only ways we will be able to really change things, along with pushing for greener ways of living and greener governments. You really see how overly populated it is when you visit countries like India or China. To me, one of biggest ways we can think about others and have respect for the world is to limit the amount of children, and consider adoption if we NEED to have more than one or two of our own, for whatever reason.

How’s THAT for a few different tangents!

]]> By: Crystal http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/09/17/we-are-all-in-this-together-lets-start-acting-like-it/comment-page-1/#comment-17079 Crystal Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2026#comment-17079 Let us go back to the past...one where ancient tribes roamed the unspoiled lands of Earth, where the miles of undeveloped, untouched coastlines and oak-studded hills were covered in the majestic pink and gold sunsets that faded slowly with no hint of smog or pollution. This was indeed paradise. Humanity has come a far way from this long lost paradise....but at times we are still able to glimpse this beauty that Earth has given us. But it is a rare sight. If we keep in mind random green facts like, "If we recycle EVERYTHING in California, it would be equivalent to taking out ALL the emissions of ALL cars in California" or "If the steps are taken now to correct pollution, the ozone layer will actually fix itself in the next 50-100 years" I think it will put us all in the right mindset to continue our journey (without incentives other than appreciating where we live) toward a cleaner, healthier environment for the future. Nicely written post-- *CV Let us go back to the past…one where ancient tribes roamed the unspoiled lands of Earth, where the miles of undeveloped, untouched coastlines and oak-studded hills were covered in the majestic pink and gold sunsets that faded slowly with no hint of smog or pollution. This was indeed paradise. Humanity has come a far way from this long lost paradise….but at times we are still able to glimpse this beauty that Earth has given us. But it is a rare sight.

If we keep in mind random green facts like, “If we recycle EVERYTHING in California, it would be equivalent to taking out ALL the emissions of ALL cars in California” or “If the steps are taken now to correct pollution, the ozone layer will actually fix itself in the next 50-100 years” I think it will put us all in the right mindset to continue our journey (without incentives other than appreciating where we live) toward a cleaner, healthier environment for the future.

Nicely written post–
*CV

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