Comments on: Another Plastic Bag Ban Bill Opposed, This Time In Hawaii. http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/ Sustainability, Environment, Progressive Politics, Peak Oil, Being Green. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:37:57 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kati http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/comment-page-1/#comment-14955 Kati Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:46:32 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/#comment-14955 I agree with Patrick in that there is far more to any environmental issue than any given detail you are looking at. It is not enough to simply ban plastic bags... you have to look at other forms of petroleum use, other plastics, gasoline, and Big Oil's practices. All of these things tie together. But that doesn't make banning plastic bags a useless move. It just can't be the only move. As far as banning bags in Hawaii, I'm sorely disappointed that the ban didn't go through. The people quoted in this article make it sound like we have no problem with plastic waste here. But our beaches are clogged with it. An English filmmaker documented our plastic waste problems, went home to England and rallied her town businessowners into a unanimous and voluntary plastic bag ban. All because of the waste they saw here in Hawaii. And consider that 100million ton mass of plastic in the Pacific Ocean. Plastic waste has gotten out of control. We've got to check this. I agree with Patrick in that there is far more to any environmental issue than any given detail you are looking at. It is not enough to simply ban plastic bags… you have to look at other forms of petroleum use, other plastics, gasoline, and Big Oil’s practices. All of these things tie together. But that doesn’t make banning plastic bags a useless move. It just can’t be the only move.

As far as banning bags in Hawaii, I’m sorely disappointed that the ban didn’t go through. The people quoted in this article make it sound like we have no problem with plastic waste here. But our beaches are clogged with it. An English filmmaker documented our plastic waste problems, went home to England and rallied her town businessowners into a unanimous and voluntary plastic bag ban. All because of the waste they saw here in Hawaii. And consider that 100million ton mass of plastic in the Pacific Ocean. Plastic waste has gotten out of control. We’ve got to check this.

]]> By: Rungnapa http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/comment-page-1/#comment-14841 Rungnapa Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:54:57 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/#comment-14841 100% agree with David, using reusable bag is to reduce the use of plastic bags which is made of oil. Imagine how many barrels of oil & how much money we can save by using reusable bag. I don't know why Botti is always says some stupid things like that ( one of his many stupid statement is " tie the knot before you toss the plastic bags" 100% agree with David, using reusable bag is to reduce the use of plastic bags which is made of oil. Imagine how many barrels of oil & how much money we can save by using reusable bag. I don’t know why Botti is always says some stupid things like that ( one of his many stupid statement is ” tie the knot before you toss the plastic bags”

]]> By: david http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/comment-page-1/#comment-14468 david Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:30:22 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/#comment-14468 Patrick - that is a weird comparison. What does a plastic bag ban have to do with spending "more time, money and energy carrying his/her groceries home"? And how are these related - "throwing away oil in the form of plastic bags, or pouring oil into the atmosphere in the form of car exhaust"? So if there are no plastic bags, all of a sudden we drive more? That makes zero sense. Using canvas or some other reusable bag is free once the bag is paid for, and you can usually get those for free. How that affects gas in our cars is beyond my comprehension. Could you please clarify? Patrick – that is a weird comparison. What does a plastic bag ban have to do with spending “more time, money and energy carrying his/her groceries home”? And how are these related – “throwing away oil in the form of plastic bags, or pouring oil into the atmosphere in the form of car exhaust”? So if there are no plastic bags, all of a sudden we drive more? That makes zero sense.

Using canvas or some other reusable bag is free once the bag is paid for, and you can usually get those for free. How that affects gas in our cars is beyond my comprehension. Could you please clarify?

]]> By: patrick http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/comment-page-1/#comment-14467 patrick Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:20:01 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/02/08/another-plastic-bag-ban-bill-opposed-this-time-in-hawaii/#comment-14467 the ironic thing here is that plastic bags are probably the most re-used forms of garbage there is. Here’s what the ban on plastic bags means in real life: the average, bill-paying citizen will have to spend more time, money and energy carrying his/her groceries home while big oil companies continue to sell more oil than ever (in the form of gas) at whatever inflated price tickles their fancy. Banning the use of plastic bags is an environmental red-herring. so what’s worse, throwing away oil in the form of plastic bags, or pouring oil into the atmosphere in the form of car exhaust? if there’s one thing oil is good for, it’s for making plastic. the ironic thing here is that plastic bags are probably the most re-used forms of garbage there is. Here’s what the ban on plastic bags means in real life: the average, bill-paying citizen will have to spend more time, money and energy carrying his/her groceries home while big oil companies continue to sell more oil than ever (in the form of gas) at whatever inflated price tickles their fancy. Banning the use of plastic bags is an environmental red-herring. so what’s worse, throwing away oil in the form of plastic bags, or pouring oil into the atmosphere in the form of car exhaust? if there’s one thing oil is good for, it’s for making plastic.

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